Letter to the Editor: Revelations

No, nothing Biblical or from Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham, just an examination of how our Governor, some legislators and the Senator from the Religious Right all reveal themselves as contemptuous of most everyone who isn’t.  As the E*Trade baby says, “here’s my shocked face”.

So, what revelations?  First, the Governor and conservative Republicans ran on promises to restore prosperity.  Their base knew this was nonsense, but the good burghers took the bait and now are yanked unceremoniously from their complacency.  Guns and god, si; jobs?  maybe later.

Why?  Because culture warfare is precisely the distraction that’s needed to obscure the widening wealth and privilege gap and diminishing prospects of economic improvement for non-elites.  Global prosperity is a better strategy than containment but the conservative Republican construct requires non-elites to work against their own interests and become an underclass, to be realized fully by destruction of safety nets, education and unions, the offsetting balancing and bargaining forces for non-elites.  And remarkably, hereabouts at least, the non-elites cheerfully do so.

Make no mistake that unions and government can be abusive: so too Wall Street, Congressional or religious miscreants.  The solution is for unions to be like they are at Caterpillar or in the auto industry, and for Government to cut civil service, pension padding and the lifetime employment nonsense.  But the trickle down economics crisis led to, even forced, Clinton era surpluses and balanced budgets, so Bush-era enormous borrowing and the Wall Street Crash (v. 2.0) isn’t being used to punish Wall Street excesses or restore tax code equity but to terminate contract and personal rights.  Conservative Republican hypocrites never met a crisis they didn’t make, or like.

And we also have McDonnell and legislators (including Mrs. Vogel) claiming they didn’t know a trans-vaginal ultrasound was invasive.  They wrote the legislation after what, sampling medical marijuana?  Anyone who pretends to this wide-eyed stupidity has no business legislating, has no respect for the electorate, and raises questions of competence for themselves and their defenders.

Closer to home we have Clarke County citizens advocating armed insurrection: no doubt the “I can’t have enough guns” crowd taking seriously Palin’s foolish comment.  Palin’s pandering was what consuming ambition demands even though impressionable minds take such statements as an invitation to murder.  Spare me that abortion is murder; abortion is the law.  Or prove it shouldn’t be, not to your clan or from the pulpit but with scientific rigor.  Or is science trumped by religion, again, as in Galileo’s time.  You don’t like Sharia law but find nothing wrong with Vatican law?  You want to imagine a future under religious teachings, look at Afghan tribal areas or most of the Middle East (except Israel where religious law is for the religious, not the state).

The knee-jerks who disagree first and analyze later miss that a more perfect union means letting others do as they wish within universally accepted bounds of public policy; and that an armed insurrection isn’t some romantic notion that Palin and her ilk make it out to be, or a drunken walk in the woods to shoot critters that don’t shoot back.

Is it clear yet that there is a compelling need to take back the system from those who’d prefer that ballots may be won by false promises, or worse, that the ballot may be replaced by the bullet?

Sure it is.  Any takers beside Shaun Broy?


Donald Marro

The Plains, Virginia


  1. clarke conservative says:

    Virginia House of Delegates 2012 session:

    • 42.3 percent of bills concerned education, government reform, public safety and jobs.
    • 12.3 percent of bills involved judicial issues.
    • 10.8 percent of bills address local matters.
    • And the rest concerned transportation, energy, the environment, health care, veterans and other issues.
    • Only 2.2% had to do with social issues.


    Like many of the self described ‘Liberal Elite’, Mr. Marro presents a very inaccurate position of Republicans to further his agenda. That, and try to belittle people with arrogant and pompous vocabulary.

  2. Roscoe Evans says:

    Now you’re hitting the nails with the proper hammer, Donald. Making cogent political points in English is something you do quite well, and it’s appreciated. The Greek and other foreign language references that require a gentleman’s education (regrettably, a thing of the past), well, not so much. Keep it up, please.

  3. Tony Parrott says:

    So what I got out of this was:
    You hate conservatives.

    As a side note and being someone who was put up for adoption and not aborted, I believe life starts at conception. I also think science would prove this. So with that said the abortion law only clarifies when it is legally acceptable to end life. Because I was not aborted it gave me the opportunity to sit down and comment on your editorial. Thank God (capitalized) for small miracles.

  4. Roscoe Evans says:

    Come off it, CC.

    Donald has intentionally dumbed down his word usage so those of us with only an advanced degree or two can understand him. I appreciate his efforts.

    As for the House of Delegates, they’re acting like they get paid by the word. I don’t care how many meaningless, pet, private or political bills that a bunch of yahoo lawyers can draft in one session. I care about what governmental problems they are presented with, and how they have proposed to solve them. I like statistics, and thank you for presenting them, but a subject matter categorization of legislative bills (i.e. unacted legislation), isn’t even responsive to Donald’s letter.

    Your numbers don’t lie. They just don’t say anything. Except for that 2.2% number. Which is what the hubbub of the nation is all about.

    • clarke conservative says:

      I must disagree … This latest hit piece of Mr Marro is entitled ‘Revalations’ and the second paragraph Mr. Marro states Republicans ran to restore prosperity and accuses the General Assembly of focusing on ‘God and Guns’ si Jobs Maybe later.

      Only 2.2% of bills, mainly SB484 and HB1 pertained to social issues. Liberals concentrated on those because they know they have failed miserably when Tim Kaine was Governor and now on the National level with Obama administration.

      How many days has it been since the Democrat US Senate has passed a budget? … over 1000 days? Pathetic. For two years the Dems controlled the US Presidency and both Houses of Congress. What did they concentrate on? The economy? Creating jobs? Nada.

      They wasted time passing ObamaCare, which 70+% of the population didn’t, and still doesn’t, want. So don’t lecture Virginia GOP about doing nothing. Look at the Democrats in Washington. Virginia is in great shape compared to the rest of this country, primarily because Republicans were elected overwhelmingly in 2009, 2010 and now 2011.

      2012 is the nation’s opportunity to clean house in the US Senate and White House and put grownups back in charge.

  5. clarke conservative says:

    To futher cheer up Liberals this evening I am pleased to announced House Bill 462, a near-replica of last week’s proposal by state Sen. Jill Holtzman Vogel (R-27), passed the state Senate on a 21-19 vote. (That means even a Pro-Life Democrat voted for it, now it is a bi-partisian bill!)

    • clarke conservative says:

      … and the Governor signed into law allowing a person to, once again, purchase more than one handgun a month. It is a good day for the second amendment.

    • Technically…it has to go back to the House since it has an amendment, added in the Senate, exempting rape and incest victims from the requirements. While not Santorum-approved, it’s a good amendment.

  6. Another View says:

    Mr. MArro claims that abortion is the “law” and is supported by “science”. WRONG on both counts.

    First, with the “science” claim. Mr. MArro throws it around carelessly, much like his hero Chris Matthews, but makes no reference to his meaning. What did “science” prove? That women need abortions? That unborn babies do not exist as persons? What? And abortion was not enshrined as a “right” due to science; rather, it was beatified due to the dictates of seven (7) misguided, unelected judges who applied–NOT “science”–their own worldview, the Constitution be damned. Which leads to . . .

    Second, when the Supreme Court, the President or the Congress acts contrary to the Constitution, their actions are ultra vires, void ab initio, and do not carry the weight of law. No citizen need obey such dictates, and no responsible public official is required to enforce these actions. So you can claim that abortion is the “law”, but that does not serve to legitimize it, and does not make it so. Roe v. Wade violates our rulebook–the Constitution. It is a fraud, irrespective of the merits of the abortion debate.

    Finally, why are you so afraid of debate? Leftists put their faith in the Court precisely so that they can end debate and achieve that which they could not achieve at the ballot box. Step out of the shadows and make your arguments. Then abide by the results.

  7. Sadly, for you, when the Supreme Court renders a decision (regardless of your personal opinion on the matter), that decision is considered the rule of the land and carries the effect of law…up until such time arises that a new ruling (by that same court) is rendered that supercedes it. If that were not the case, then every single decision rendered by the SCOTUS could glibly be ignored, tossed aside, and scoffed at.

    Until Roe vs. Wade is overturned by a superceding case brought to that court, the decision rendered in that case (regardless of whether or not you agree with it) holds sway in this country. And, that IS found in the Constitution.

    This gives a pretty good summation of the SCOTUS ruling on the matter, for Ms. Roe.

    • Another View says:

      No, sadly for the country that that is the prevailing understanding. It would be better if the Supreme Court, for example, respected its limited role, and stayed within Constitutional bounds. Since it has not, it would then be better if the other branches of government acted to restrain the Supreme Court’s lawless actions, such as Congress passing laws restricting its jurisdiction or impeaching judges who refuse to stay within Constitutional bounds.

      And it would be better if our populace were a little less sheeplike, and rebelled against lawless government intervention into our lives.

  8. keep it up mr. marro – as roscoe commented, you’ve hit the nail on the head!

  9. Donald C. Marro says:

    Gentlemen, may I suggest you form a barbershop quartet called the Usual Suspects – you won’t have to relinquish your sacred anonymity and can celebrate in costume and song the traditions of a simpler America, when men were men and women were barefoot and pregnant (or aborted by “specialists” or backroom amateurs, you know the good old days)

    Let’s first measure CC for disposition. CC, I propose you become CCC, for Credulous Clarke Conservative. Or you could adopt Gullible instead. Read the bills, CCC. 42.3% of the bills were Education, Government Reform, Public Safety and Jobs? Nonsense. How many were Jobs, CCC. And which ones? The legislature had before it 2,713 pieces of business, including 1,985 bills. Culture war bills were HB1, 9, 20, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 33, 60, 62, 66, 76, 89, 91, 108, 139, 148, 183, 213, 221, 237, 260, 261, 309, 320, 375, 458, 462, 472, 533, 569, 576, 592, 628, 631, 754, 776, 779, 797, 825, 828, 859, 895, 905, 923, 940, 955, 958, 1001, 1006, 1052, 1060, 1077, 1084, 1085, 1112, 1115, 1135, 1162, 1171, 1208, 1223, 1226, 1227, 1257, 1275 and 1285 in the House of Delegates and SB1, 6, 23, 55, 56, 57, 62, 63, 67, 69, 83, 188, 225, 244, 245, 252, 275, 277, 279, 283, 318, 319, 323, 324, 379, 380, 429, 438, 451, 460, 484, 510, 518, 554, 563, 564, 637, 648, 663, 670 and 674 in the Senate. Mrs. Vogel and her Shenendoah stalwart colleague Mr. Obenshain were quite active.

    Jobs bills were much scarcer (12 each in House and Senate), and notable for their utter lack of boldness.

    CCC, I see you have the need to classify me but as part of the Liberal Elite? I think you might be working for another merit badge, son, for “Misguided Bias”. Read MarroForTomorrow, maintained in large part so those not too lazy to read have a place to learn what I believe, and ran on. Twice. In detail. Or just rant if you prefer.

    And you take several bites of the apple, CCC, so let’s move on to your other efforts. Have you looked at the federal jobs numbers recently? Maybe you should. But we’re speaking here of the Virginia Culture Warriors not the federal stimulus or budget. Kindly focus. Can’t focus? OK, then, you’re free to rant.

    OK, now Mr. Parrott. So you were adopted, not aborted. And that proves what, or qualifies you as an expert in what? To determine when life begins? Has anyone ever tried to familiarize you with the difference between opinion and fact? Your opinion has merit to be sure but no more than opposing opinions and quite little when it’s founded on flimsy or no factual evidence. Fact or reasoned hypothetical positions generally trump opinion most everywhere. Do you get out much? Is it your opinion you can drive drunk, or above the speed limit? Want to see who disagrees?

    Now to the baritone in the quartet, Another View. Finished drilling the militia for Armed Insurrection have you? And ready to declare the Supreme Court fair game, I see. Not everyone is like you, AV, although I get that you think that others, yourself included, are better suited to interpret the Constitution and the law. Should I be the one to tell you that you are not so endowed, my son. Or shall we debate. OK, let’s debate. Let’s hear your argument – I’ve heard the rant, and that qualifies you for the barbershop quartet but it isn’t debate, even if you think it is.

    Show of hands. How many are rushing to the barricades with AV. How many support fully funded programs or are personally rushing to help unwed or unprepared or unfit Moms or rape victims. How many are standing in line to adopt unwanted pregnancies. How many of you actually read the tripe that your legislators work on? Do you know that the power company got more power lines authorized without opportunity for objection. Or that the Sea of Japan must be referred to in textbooks now as the East Sea. Or that debt collectors don’t have to comply with federal restrictions. Or that government can tell you when to cut your grass – I like that one. Next, it’s your hair, don’t you know.

    I also get that you can post, but can you reason? From facts? Let’s see.

    • clarke conservative says:

      Mr. Marro – Wow I didn’t realize you would group the ‘disposition of fire arms’ (HB22) as a cultural issue, or is everything you disagree with described as such?

      A brief explanation of the first 6 ‘Social’ bills you listed:

      HB -1 Personhood Bill (granted this is a social issue, but it would only bring Virginia up to the legal level of the far-right conservative bastion – California), HB9 – Voting rights, HB20- Emergency Services and Disaster Law, HB21 – Polling places; requirements for county precinct., HB22 – Firearms; disposition thereof acquired by localities. HB25 – Concealed handgun permit; confidentiality of permittee information – and so on.

      Hardly ‘cultural warrior’ stuff. Of all the GA bills in 2012 (2,713 of them) less than a handful had to do with ultrasounds / abortions / right-to-life, and most of those were duplicates of the language of SB484.

      Oh, I am sorry … am I beginning to rant? or do you hear yourself in a echo?

    • Tony Parrott says:

      Ok, I’ll play. So we are debating when life begins.
      From a scientific standpoint life does start at conception.
      Based on universally accepted scientific criteria, a new cell, the human zygote, comes into existence at the moment of sperm-egg fusion, an event that occurs in less than a second. Upon formation, the zygote immediately initiates a complex sequence of events that establish the molecular conditions required for continued embryonic development. The behavior of the zygote is radically unlike that of either sperm or egg separately and is characteristic of a human organism. Thus, the scientific evidence supports the conclusion that a zygote is a human organism and that the life of a new human being commences at a scientifically well defined “moment of conception.” This conclusion is objective, consistent with the factual evidence, and independent of any specific ethical, moral, political, or religious view of human life or of human embryos.
      Now what you just read happened to me personally so I guess I am a subject matter expert. Surprise, so are you.

      But please don’t take my word for it. Contact the author.
      Maureen L. Condic, Ph.D.

      So now that we have the facts straight here is my opinion. It is obvious to me that you don’t like conservatives or anyone with a differing opinion. You like to belittle people and treat them like they are not as smart as you and you like to cloud the issues with poor analogies. If you want to share your opinion on current events in the political arena do so without the pompous attitude. That my friend will never get you elected.
      Finally I’m sure I’m not as smart as you are or as well educated and that’s ok because I believe common sense and intelligence are proportional; the more you have of one the less you have of the other. I’m happy with my portions.
      Thanks, I had fun.

  10. Another View says:

    Mr. MArro, it is not I who is ignorant of the Consitution, but you, as it is clear from your missive that you do not believe the Constitution created a federal government of limited, enumerated powers. How else can you explain your demogogic statements concerning the care of unwanted children? It is not the federal government’s role to care for any citizen’s needs, not even children’s needs.

    And you also fall prey to the government default position; that is, if someone fails a duty or responsibility, you immediately jump to the conclusion that government is thus obligated and entitled to step in. Not so. Government is not our parent.

    The Constitution was written in plain, simple English, so that the common man would easily understand it. I do possess the ability to read, understand and apply it, as does any fairly educated citizen who chooses to read it. You do not have to attend Harvard Law School or be nominated by the President to understand our federal Constitution.

    Nothing in the federal Constitution grants the federal government–any branch–the authority to opine, regulate, legislate or act on the subject of abortion. I defy you to find any support in that document which supports your misguided belief that abortion is a proper federal object of consideration.

    • It came to the SCOTUS after working its way up the court chain, as prescribed in the Constitution and the federal laws passed by Congress to reflect the order of the federal judiciary. The SCOTUS based its ruling for Roe on the due process clause of the Constitution.

      But…clearly, that doesn’t matter to you, since you won’t let the legal facts get in the way of your frothing at the mouth about it. You and Sarge…hand and glove, ‘twould seem.

  11. Roscoe Evans says:

    I was thinking about a comment that cases and controversies interpreted by courts decide the meaning of the Constitution over time, and so on….

    But why bother?

    Another View, you have said that the current President has imposed a tyranny on this nation, and that he deserves to be overthrown by an armed insurrection of the populace, exercising its Second Amendment rights. With a fictional world view like that, no sir. You are not capable of reading and understanding the Constitution like any other fairly educated citizen.

    • Another View says:

      President Obama and his allies have imposed tyranny on this country, starting with Obamacare. But my comments have been that he should be removed, and if necessary–and only if necessary–by force.

      “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

      Patrick Henry, Virginian and Patriot

  12. Donald C. Marro says:

    Let’s see, AV, I invited you to debate and you studiously ignore 225 years of history in order to make your point that government isn’t our parent and abortion is against what, god’s will? You do make debate pointless, AV.

    And AV, because you can read may be fine for The Adventures of Dick and Jane but not for substantive issues of public policy and governance. I take it that you are smart enough to know that, and I expect you know that there is a significant body of thought and debate that has brought us over time to where we are as a nation, and I expect you know that you can’t ignore it simply because you disagree. But then you will beat your chest.

    Virginia has a history of resisting change, of being dragged reluctantly into the mainstream so perhaps you are upholding that benighted tradition. Go ahead, AV, vent. Even threaten armed insurrection until you heed my and others warning that to do so may be legally dangerous. I know the world seems more hospitable when you rail against its perceived wrongs and inequities, so go ahead. If you can’t be engaged, and can’t be reasoned with, you should at least be able to have catharsis, or some fun.

    But no Armed Insurrection, AV. Unless you really want to see Guantanamo up close.

    • Name that passage

      That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

      • “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to to speak of and act on their belief. At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral.” ~ Ronald Reagan


  13. Another View says:

    Mr. MArro, it is you who refuses to debate. I stand on the Constitution, which does not permit the federal government to weigh in on the issue of abortion, for or against. Your response is to dismiss that argument with platitudes and insults. You are the one who appears to be intellectually challenged in this regard.

    I also am not afraid to call tyranny by its name, and demand its defeat, peacefully or otherwise. Thank goodness our founding fathers were not so timid as you.

    As for the law, fear not. I know a thing or two about the law and its application. But thank you for your concern.

  14. Reality Bites says:

    “…Anyone who pretends to this wide-eyed stupidity has no business legislating, has no respect for the electorate, and raises questions of competence for themselves and their defenders.”

    Mr. Marro – are you perchance speaking about Ms. Nancy “you have to pass the bill to know what’s in it” Pelosi?

  15. Just Asking says:

    Obviously posters here are closer to the issue than I am. But could someone answer my simplistic questions? I claim no expertise.

    1.The whole intra / inter / external sonogram test is just a bump in the road? The sonogram doesn’t change anything on the abortion legality or availability?

    2.What the test cost? And who pays for it?

    3.If the test actually changes someone’s decision and they opt not to abort has the state included things like financial aid and care etc of the baby once delivered?

    Nothing is free. Is this one of those deals where the elected folks implement a feel good vote without including actual or future costs to the tax payers?

    • Uncle Jessie says:

      Actually Just Asking- this is just another example of hypocracy from the Grand OLD Party. They claim to be against big gov’t, gov’t infringing your rights- and of course mandates.


  16. If the Federal Government were to stick to the US Constitution as to what powers it can and cannot perform, half of Northern Virginia would be out of work.

    • Another View says:

      Would that be a bad thing?

      And just imagine how much more money everyone would have in their pockets if the federal government adhered to the Constitution!

      • How would they have money if they were out of work?

        • Another View says:

          Well everyone else would have more money, leading to a more prosperous economy. Presumably these federal folks would find other jobs, where they would make money.

  17. Roscoe Evans says:

    So, you’re a combo lawyer/economist/revolutionary? Who knew?

    • Another View says:

      I’m actually a combo lawyer/economist/historian/revolutionary. I also am golf rules official. I can putt and shoot, and then explain the legal rationale for both, as well as the historical justifications.